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Women of NASA
Virtual Take Our Daughters to Work Day QuestChat Archive

Date: April 22, 1999

Featuring: Linda Bangert
Aerospace Technologist
NASA Langley Research Center, Langley, VA


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Hello to our early arriving chat participants! Today's Virtual Take Our Daughters to Work Day chat with Linda Bangert from NASA Langley Research Center will begin at 12:00 p.m., Pacific Daylight Time. Be sure you have read Linda's profile at http://quest.arc.nasa.gov/women/bios/lsb.html before joining this chat.

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[ Oran/NASAChatHost - 6 - 11:58:05 ]
Hello and welcome to today's Virtual Take Our Daughters to Work Day chat with Linda Bangert from NASA Langley Research Center. Linda tests airplane models in wind tunnels and simulates jet engine exhaust using high pressure air. The results of these tests help her understand how propulsion may affect certain aircraft designs. In addition to supporting testing for military aircraft, Linda also tests designs for future supersonic passenger airlines during take off and landing speeds (about 180 miles per hour).

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And now, here is Linda Bangert to answer your questions.

[ LindaBangert/LaRC - 9 - 12:01:38 ]
RE: [Lupe] Have you ever encountered technical problems while flying?
I assume you mean mechanical problems with the airplane? There was once when we were practicing emergency procedures when the engine really did quit on my instructor and me. Since we had our emergency landing field all picked out, I wasn't overly concerned except for how long of a walk we would have. The problem turned out to be carburetor ice, and we did get the engine re-started at with about 200 feet of altitude left.

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RE: [MrThompson] Hi Sorry we are late - we are just finishing up with Pat Cowings chat. We're here now.
Mr. Thompson, we're glad you logged on. Linda is ready for your questions now.

[ LindaBangert/LaRC - 18 - 12:22:45 ]
RE: [MrThompson] Do you think career guidance tests are good or did it in your case discourage you?
No career guidance test I took said I should be an engineer, but it didn't discourage me. I think there was a lot of gender bias in the guidance tests back then (high school class of 77).

[ LindaBangert/LaRC - 20 - 12:24:47 ]
RE: [Claire/UHS] What do you do to handle both raising a daughter and working so much?
Compromise a lot! The workplace has gotten so much more family-friendly in the last few years. I don't know how people managed before flex-time. Still, there are things that don't get done, but I try to keep perspective and omit the things that won't matter in the long run.

[ LindaBangert/LaRC - 25 - 12:29:53 ]
RE: [Guadalupe] What problems(if any) did you have to overcome to be were you are today?
In the week between senior year finals and college graduation, we had a faculty-senior softball game. I was the only woman, and ended up taking a line-drive in the face. I missed graduation, but after surgery to repair the broken bones, I was fine - except my confidence in my ability to make good judgements was shot for awhile. This was when I was just starting a new job, and being "the new kid" was confidence-shattering enough. It just took time and experience to regain my ability to trust my judgement again. I still don't play softball though...;-)

[ LindaBangert/LaRC - 27 - 12:33:07 ]
RE: [marie/OR] How did the men treat you when you worked on the fighter planes? Were you the only woman?
I was usually the only woman in any meeting. I worked with engineers, not the pilots, and I think that was easier. I think I was generally treated well, and chalked up any questioning of my abilities to my relative lack of experience instead of my gender.

[ LindaBangert/LaRC - 30 - 12:36:45 ]
RE: [bonnie/OR] Where there any accidents when you worked on the military planes? Do you think they cover up accidents or do we get accurate information? What do you think about the pilots who crashed into the gondola?
As an NASA research engineer, the planes I was working on were years from flying. Some haven't even flown yet. I don't feel qualified to comment on the gondola accident. The press seemed pretty sure about where to place the blame, but on the rare occasions when I knew first hand what had happened, the press rarely got all the details correct. I'm sure that accidents involving classified airplanes don't get reported completely.

[ LindaBangert/LaRC - 32 - 12:38:02 ]
RE: [Claire/UHS] Do you ever work from home to take your daughter with you?
No, although telecommuting is now an option for me. She's 3, and I don't think I'd get much meaningful work done at home while I was keeping her out of trouble.

[ LindaBangert/LaRC - 35 - 12:39:19 ]
RE: [Maxine] do you ever aspire to be an astronaut?
I was 9 when we landed on the moon. You bet I wanted to be an astronaut! As I got older, I realized that the reality wasn't nearly as cool as I thought, and designing airplanes seemed much more interesting.

[ LindaBangert/LaRC - 36 - 12:41:16 ]
RE: [Sabrina] What is your research used for? Is it for shuttles or other types of aircraft?
I was still in college when the shuttle became operational, so I have never worked on it. NASA is now looking at various replacements for the shuttle, and other reusable launch vehicles. I think I'll probably end up working on those some in the next few years. What I've worked on up until now have been airplanes - fighters, bombers, and lately, a supersonic civil transport.

[ LindaBangert/LaRC - 39 - 12:44:05 ]
RE: [Jenny] what else do you do with your spare time???
Spare time? I have a 3-year old! :-) Actually, I have more spare time now than I did when she was 2, so I read (lately mysteries set in medieval times) or participate in a e-mail discussion list for a rock band (the Moody Blues). Both are things that can be done in short bursts and won't be a big deal if I don't get to them for a week or two.

[ LindaBangert/LaRC - 43 - 12:47:29 ]
RE: [Bettina] how do you the time for a private plane and being working a NASA?
I married a guy who was a pilot and had a plane. He's nice enough to share, especially the upkeep. ;-) I don't fly much lately by myself, but he keeps current instructing and is usually ready to go anytime I want to. Our daughter thinks it's fun too, as long as we don't go on really long trips.

[ LindaBangert/LaRC - 44 - 12:49:19 ]
RE: [Jenny] do you enjoy working with nasa? how old were you when you decided to work with nasa?
I wanted to work for NASA since the moon landing when I was 9. I didn't know they also worked on airplanes until I was in college. Like any workplace, NASA isn't perfect (read Dilbert - sometimes I think Scott Adams sits down the hall!), but I believe it is better than most.

[ LindaBangert/LaRC - 45 - 12:51:41 ]
RE: [LoopyFL] DO you think that Nasa will ever build a super sonic transport?
NASA won't because it's not our job to compete with airplane manufacturers. Since Boeing just recently announced that they won't build one until at least 2010, I think it won't be soon. I wish someone would, because I've been working that technology area for the last 2 years, and I know I would like to get places faster.

[ LindaBangert/LaRC - 49 - 12:53:54 ]
RE: [kristina] how long did it take you to get through college i mean years?????
I packed a 4-year undergraduate program into 6. ;-) I started out as a physics major, then changed majors and schools to do aerospace engineering. Then I worked alternate semesters at NASA while I was going to school. I don't regret it though, the experience was wonderful. Then I did my Masters degree part time while I was working, so that took another few years.

[ LindaBangert/LaRC - 50 - 12:55:48 ]
RE: [Bettina] what is your goal for the future?
To ride out the current uncertain times in NASA aeronautics and find a new niche where I can continue productive and interesting work. To raise a happy, healthy daughter. To have more time for my own hobbies again as she gets older.

[ LindaBangert/LaRC - 52 - 13:01:15 ]
RE: [Sabrina] Do you still know a lot about attack planes and what is being used in the war now? What had changed since you worked on them? How long do they work on new advanced planes before they use them? Are there new ideas now that we would see in later years?
The planes being used now are the same ones we've had for years. B-52 bombers were first used when I was still in high school. The things I worked on haven't flown yet. In the current military funding situation, they may never fly. Concepts are continually being worked, and they make their way on to an airplane if they technology is mature enough and there is a new airplane to put them on, or it is sufficiently attractive to put it on an old one. A typical fighter design-cycle time is 10 years. The future? Look for planes without pilots, so that people don't have to go in harm's way and possibly get shot down.

[ LindaBangert/LaRC - 53 - 13:02:15 ]
RE: [kristina] have you ever brought your daughter to work?
Yes. She likes seeing her pictures and artwork hung in my office. She gets bored pretty quickly though, watching me work at a computer.

[ LindaBangert/LaRC - 58 - 13:04:30 ]
RE: [shananaFL] what would you like your daughter to be when she is grown?
Something she enjoys and is lucrative enough that she can move out on her own. ;-)

[ LindaBangert/LaRC - 60 - 13:05:23 ]
RE: [Bettina] would you agree with the saying "terible two" from your own expieriences
Yes! although it doesn't start at 2 and end at 3. When she gets mad now, she has more stamina. ;-)

[ LindaBangert/LaRC - 61 - 13:05:41 ]
RE: [kristina] in your bio. it sayed your daughter was 2 did she resently have a birthday?
Yes, in January.

[ LindaBangert/LaRC - 62 - 13:07:23 ]
RE: [LOOPY] what was the scariest moment while you were flying.
I scared myself pretty badly once when I took off downwind. There was plenty of runway and no other planes anywhere around, so I was in no immediate danger, but it could have been really bad if there had been. This was at the same time I was having those confidence problems I mentioned, so I probably was extra hard on myself.

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We will now be ending our chat with Linda Bangert. We would like to thank everyone for joining us today. Our very special thanks to Linda for her very thoughtful responses to our questions, and for sharing her personal and career experiences, and expertise with us.

[ Jenny - 64 - 13:07:43 ]
THANK YOU FOR TALKING TO ME! :-) ;-)

[ kristina - 65 - 13:07:43 ]
goodbye

[ Kristina - 66 - 13:07:43 ]
u are sooo cool

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Check the Virtual Take Our Daughters to Work Day events schedule page at http://quest.arc.nasa.gov/women/TODTWD99/schedule.html to learn more about today's upcoming chats. Also check our schedule of events page at http://quest.arc.nasa.gov/common/events to learn about other upcoming chats with NASA experts.

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[ LindaBangert/LaRC - 69 - 13:09:37 ]
You are pretty cool yourselves! Thanks for asking good questions! Bye now.

[ TomSarkoteacher - 70 - 13:16:20 ]
I thought Linda did a super job with her chat: great answers and a lot of neat insights for the girls who participated. Thank you!

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