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Welcome to the Women of NASA forum with Emily Holton from Ames Research
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This Forum will last through Thursday, 12/9. You may post questions at
any time over the course of the 3 days and check back to read your response
from Dr.Holton.
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RE: [Austin] What experiment are
you working on now?
Hi Austin, Right now, I am primarily a manager planning new programs for
NASA and participating in diverse discussion groups. I hope to get back
into the lab in January and conduct research with a collaborator from
the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, MN. The study will be looking at the response
of various bones from adult male and female rats who do not bear weight
on their hindlimbs similar to astronauts in space. The ultimate goal of
this research is to learn in certain drug combinations might inhibit bone
loss and, perhaps, even add bone in these "hindlimb unloaded" rats.
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RE: [Chris] How long have you been
doing this job? Do you like it or do you kind of like it?
Hi Chris, I joined NASA over 30 years ago. I had not intended to work
for NASA as I was quite happy doing research in a medical school and teaching
pharmacology. By a strange series of events, I found myself working for
NASA. I have never regretted for a minute that fate brought me here. I
have such an exciting career planning to the future of humankind. I travel
all over the world talking about the unique changes that occur in humans,
animals, and cells during changes in the gravity level.
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RE: [Cody] How would a bird react
in space?
Hi Cody, I actually have some video of quail aboard the MIR space station.
Adult quail on MIR adapted quickly to the space environment. They soared,
rather than flapped, their wings and held onto their perch for stability
when eating (i.e., so that they weren't propelled backwards, as for every
action there is an equal and opposite reaction). Fertilized quail eggs
appeared to undergo normal embryogenesis in space, but serious problems
occurred after hatching. When a cosmonaut took a hatchling from its habitat,
the chick appeared content as long as it was held. But once released,
the bird first flapped its wings for orientation and began to spin like
a ballerina, then kicked its legs causing it to tumble--it became a spinning
ball. The cosmonaut noted that the chick would fix its eyes on the cosmonaut
while trying to orient in space. When placed in their habitat, the chicks
had difficulty flying to their perch to eat, and, unlike the adults, had
difficulty grasping the perch for stability when eating.
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RE: [BurtonValleyElem] What types
of new research and information do you have now on bone mass and changes
from long duration space flight since your last chat? Do you think that
humans will survive a flight to Mars and what types of information do
you think we have to have before we can safely send a human on a long
duration flight?
Hi students, I haven't had much change to work in the lab, but I've had
a lot of fun putting together and presenting a paper on gravity's effects
on living systems from cells through humans. I was fortunate to be invited
to London to give this presentation. The presentation was given in the
same room where Charles Darwin gave his first presentation on the origin
of species. I have attended some NASA working groups grappling with the
countermeasures program for bone loss in space. Some data suggest that
we might be able to develop physiological countermeasures that will minimize
or even stop the bone changes during flight. If this happens, then a trip
to Mars will not be a problem for bone. Humans have already survived over
a year in space, so the trip to Mars will probably not be all that difficult
as the only time will minimal gravity will be the trip to and from the
planets. At least on Mars, the crew will have about 1/3 the gravity level
on Earth.
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RE: [Tova] Hi Dr. Holton - Thank
you for letting us ask you questions. I think your career is so exciting!
Would you ever consider changing careers and if so what else would you
do? Do you ever wish you pursued a career in the medical field?
Hi Tova, Yes, I have an incredibly exciting job. I thought of retiring
a couple of years ago with the idea that I'd go back to school and take
up jazz composition and play writing. My goal was to be to write a jazz
comedy on research in NASA. However, my job became so interesting and
challenging that I have given up the idea of retirement in the near future.
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RE: [Elizabeth] We were reading your
archived chat and have some more personal questions if you don'9t mind...
Looking back now on raising your daughter and pursuing such a fulfilling
career do you have any advise for us who also are trying to balance both
career and raising children? You mentioned the need for constancy in a
child'9s life. Are there things you would do differently or would recommend
to us?
Hi Elizabeth, Hindsight is always 20-20. I've thought a lot about what
I might do differently. Some of my recommendations would be to appreciate
help/assistance from friends and family and let them know how much you
appreciate and need that help. I would have spent more time studying together
or spending time making sure that she developed good study habits. I would
probably be a bit more of a disciplinarian. One of the biggest problems,
from my perspective, was the lack of people of her age in our neighborhood
and at the church that we attended. So, from an early age she primarily
associated with older people. I now think that children need to associate
with children to build appropriate social skills. when you child decides
that they want a career that is totally different than what you would
want for them, you need to accept their decision yet not necessarily agree
with it. And though it all, you really need to let them know how much
you love them.
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RE: [KimberlyDYF] Hi Dr. Holton,
Do you ever do any research for the medical field or is your research
ever used for research on treatments of particular diseases?
Hi Kimberly, I received my Ph.D. in a bsic medical science and was trained
that research was designed with humans in mind. When I joined NASA, I
realized that research to understand basic mechanisms was every bit as
important as focusing research on humans. Interestingly, important biological
mutations or gene mutations are well-preserved across species. Understanding
how a yeast responds to an environmental stress can shed light on how
other species may respond. So, all research might ultimately have impact
on humans. The challenge is not to ignore those important research papers
in lower species as they may actually have as much, if not more, impact
than those done specifically for humans. Most drugs used in humans are
initially tested in animals. The rat model system that we developed for
understanding how this species responds when its hindlimbs are unloaded,
has lead to a better understanding of bone loss and muscle atrophy, and
some of the drugs tested in this system are in clinical trials for humans.
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RE: [DrMoore] Dr. Holton Do you think
chiropractic and "non -traditional" work on bones, the skeletal system,
etc. will ever be used to benefit astronauts? What types of work is being
done in this area that you know of?
Hi Dr. Moore, My father was an osteopath and my brother is a chiropractor.
My father had incredible skills in manipulation and I'm so sorry that
osteopathic schools seem to have now minimized this skill. I also think
that in the San Francisco Bay area, chiropractic school should reconsider
the number of students being graduated per year as there are many starving
chiropractors in this area. Manipulation is great and helpful to just
about anyone, particularly those under stress. I don't think that manipulation
will be helpful in retarding the bone loss or muscle atrophy as those
changes are most likely related to the difference in the loading that
the body experiences and require impact loading. I'm sure that crew members
would probably welcome manipulation after a long, hard day.
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RE: [Jeanne] Dr. Holton, My students
will be doing a women in science project in February. Is there a way they
could interview you via e-mail or regular mail?
Hi Jeanne, I'd be pleased to participate. I recommend email, telecon,
or videocon. Regular mail tends to get relegated to the bottom of my "must
do now" stack. Just let me know the dates and I'll make sure that I'm
available.
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RE: [Pam] We are four high school
seniors considering a career in space or engineering. We wondered what
the Ames Research Center was and why its the most exciting place in the
world to work. Also, are there any colleges you would recommend for engineering
or for getting involved with NASA?
Hi Pam, You ask some pretty tough questions. I'll answer the easiest first.
Ames Research Center is located about 30 miles south of San Francisco,
at the end of the bay. I spent most of my life east of the Mississippi
and thought that how you liked the city in which you lived depended upon
the people you met. I still think that is true, but I had no idea of the
beauty and addictiveness of this area before I moved here. The Pacific
Ocean and San Francisco are less than 30 minutes away. Yosemite or the
desert is a 4 hr drive. You can get to great ski resorts in 3-4 hr (you
can visit the snow if you miss it, but you don't have to live with it).
The bay area seldom has more than 3 days of rain in a row and you have
beautiful blue sky in between. Only a few of the trees are deciduous,
so you have lots of green year round. There are many great hiking trails
within a few minutes of about anywhere. We seldom have rain between April
and November, so you can plan to do outside activities without fear of
being rained out. Great museums, symphonies, opera, ballet, theatre, etc.
Now, you take the bay area and couple that with a world class research
center and that's about heaven on Earth. Ames was originally know for
its research in aeronautics. Today, it has diversified. It's main research
charters are Information Technology and Astrobiology. One of the most
interesting aspects of Ames is the number of cross cultural and intradisciplinary
teams that are put together to solve problems or create new areas of research.
Right now I spend a lot of time in Astrobiology. Dreaming about the future
and driving the research programs to get there is awesome. If you want
to become associated with Ames, I'd recommend a college in the bay area.
We have a number of student programs. The person to contact to learn about
the programs is Patricia Powell. I'd also recommend the ARC home page
as you can learn a lot about the center (http://www.arc.nasa.gov).
Good luck with your careers. I'm always so pleased to hear that young
women are considering careers in engineering or science.
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RE: [Katie] I am a senior in high
school, and pursuing a career in aerospace engineering. Are there any
scholarships available to women in my position?
Hi Katie, There should be many scholarships available. I would recommend
that you talk with your high school advisor and that you contact the colleges
that you are interested in attending and request that they send you information
on available scholarships. Many colleges and universities list available
scholarships on their websites. Good luck.
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RE: [Bruce] Has any research looked
into the effects of zero-gravity on spinal conditions such as scoliosis,
a curvature of the spine? If gravity contributes to it, do you think it
possible that an adolescent with scoliosis might some century be sent
to space to prevent curving of the spine?
Interestingly, spaceflight seems to cause back pain in more than 50% of
the people who fly. This pain probably comes from the lack of gravity
which usually causes compression of the spinal column. Without gravity's
load, the disks expand as the vertebra separate and this change creates
pain in many people. However, I did talk once with Harrison Schmidt, Lunar
Module Pilot on Apollo 17. He told me that he has chronic back pain and
that the only time that he was pain-free was in space. So, as long as
someone with back pain or scoliosis stays in space, the pain might be
relieved. Yet, coming back to Earth will once again compress the vertebra
and reestablish the curvature which will likely reinitiate the pain. So,
I doubt that spaceflight will prevent curving of the spine for someone
who will return to Earth, but it is an interesting idea.
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RE: [Emily] I have heard that astronauts
can not cry in space I would like to know would that effect their eye
or would they use eye drops?
Wow, this is news to me. I had to contact some of my outside experts on
this question. Turns out that probably only the astronauts know if they
can cry in space. However, on some spacecraft the atmosphere is so dry
that the certain crewmembers do experience dry eyes, and that crewmember
may then use eyedrops. So, the cause is not changes in physiology, but
the dry environment.
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Thank you for your participation in our Women of NASA Forum with Emily
Holton from NASA Ames Research Center. We would like offer our special
thanks to Emily for her thoughtful responses to our questions during our
forum. Thank you, Emily!
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This concludes our Women of NASA chats and forums for this year. We will
take a break for the upcoming holidays, but will return in January with
more chats and forums with our experts. On behalf of Tish Krieg, manager
of the Women of NASA project, have a wonderful holiday season.
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A final reminder to share your thoughts with us at http://quest.arc.nasa.gov/qchats.
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Thank you Dr. Holton. Students will begin their projects on February 10
and finish on March 6. One student will be assigned you and will use e-mail
to contact you. Thanks again.